Start Date: 2017-12-12 RFC PR:


Install ES5 getters for computed properties on object prototypes, thus eliminating the need to use this.get() or Ember.get() to access them.


import Object, { computed } from '@ember/object';

const Person = Object.extend({
  fullName: computed('firstName', 'lastName', function() {
    return `${this.get('firstName')} ${this.get('lastName')}`;

let chancancode = Person.create({ firstName: 'Godfrey', lastName: 'Chan' });

chancancode.get('fullName'); // => 'Godfrey Chan'

chancancode.set('firstName', 'ʎǝɹɟpo⅁');

chancancode.get('fullName'); // => 'ʎǝɹɟpo⅁ Chan'

let { firstName, lastName, fullName } = chancancode.getProperties('firstName', 'lastName', 'fullName');


import Object, { computed } from "@ember/object";

const Person = Object.extend({
  fullName: computed('firstName', 'lastName', function() {
    return `${this.firstName} ${this.lastName}`;

let chancancode = Person.create({ firstName: 'Godfrey', lastName: 'Chan' });

chancancode.fullName; // => 'Godfrey Chan'

chancancode.set('firstName', 'ʎǝɹɟpo⅁');

chancancode.fullName; // => 'ʎǝɹɟpo⅁ Chan'

let { firstName, lastName, fullName } = chancancode; // No problem!


Ember inherited its computed properties functionality from SproutCore. The feature was designed at a time before ES5 getters were widely available. This necessitated using a special function such as this.get() or Ember.get() to access the values of computed properties.

Since all of our target browsers support ES5 getters now, we can drop the need of this special function, improving developer ergonomics and interoperability between other libraries and tooling (such as TypeScript).

Note that at present, using this.set() or Ember.set() is still mandatory for the property to recompute properly. In the future, we might be able to loosen this requirement, perhaps with the help of ES5 setters. However, that would require more design and is out-of-scope for this RFC.

this.get() and Ember.get() will still work. This RFC does not propose removing or deprecating them in the near term. They support other use cases that ES5 getters do not, such as "safe" path chaining (get('')) and unknownProperty (and Proxies by extension), so any future plans to deprecate them would have to take these features into account.

Addon authors would likely need to continue using Ember.get() for at least another two LTS cycles (8 releases) to support older versions of Ember (and possibly longer to support proxies). It is, however, very unlikely that the everyday user would need to use this.

Detailed design

The computed property function, along with any caches, can be stored in the object's "meta". We will then define a getter on the object's prototype to compute the value.

One caveat is that the computed property function is currently stored on the instances for implementation reasons that are no longer relevant. However, it is possible that some developers have observed their existance and have accidentally relied on these private semantics (e.g. chancancode.fullName.get() or chancancode.fullName.isDescriptor).

Before landing this change, we should turn the property into an assertion so that in these unlikely scenarios, developers will at least receive some warning.

Another thing to consider is that there is this Little Known Trick™ to add Computed Properties to POJOs:

import { computed, get } from "@ember/object";

let foo = {
  bar: computed(function() { return 'bar'; })

get(foo, 'bar'); // => 'bar'

In this case, there is no opportunity for us to install an ES5 getter, and Ember.get is the only solution. This is very rare in practice and is more or less just a party trick. We should deprecate this use case (in Ember.get) and suggest the alternative:

import Object, { computed } from "@ember/object";

let foo = Object.extend({
  bar: computed(function() { return 'bar'; })
}).create();; // => 'bar'

Or simply...

let foo = {
  get bar() {
    return 'bar';
};; // => 'bar'

How We Teach This

For the most part, this RFC removes a thing that we need to teach new users.

It might, however, come across as slightly strange that set() is still required. However, many other libraries share the same model, and empricially, this does not appear to be an issue. For example, in React, you can freely access but must use this.setState('foo', ...) to update it. Even Vue has the same API for some cases.

The mental model for this is that you must use the set() in order for Ember to notice your mutations, so that it can update the caches, rerender things on the screen, etc.

As for users who already learned to use get() everywhere, that would continue to work. Ideally, this would be a Cool Trick™ they pick up some day (as in "Oh, I don't have to do that anymore? Cool."), at which point the old habit would quickly die. If this turned out to be too confusing, we could always explore deprecating this.get(); we will just have to weigh the cost-benefits of the confusion (if any) versus churn.


As mentioned, not removing set() at the same time might be a source of confusion. However, removing set() would require significantly more upfront design work, and it might not even be possible to completely remove the need of set() (as the system is designed today) in all cases (see Vue.set()).

Since removing get() would unlock so many benefits, and since there are plenty of other libraries that uses the same model, the case for decoupling the two seems overwhemlingly positive.


  • Hold off until we also remove set
  • Hold off until we transition to something like Glimmer's @tracked

In my opinion, these alternatives do not make a lot of sense, as neither of these hypothetical systems appear to require (or would benefit from) having a user-land getter system.